Any hints on progress/release date?

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atamajakki atamajakki's picture
Any hints on progress/release date?

I've been eagerly awaiting the FATE book - I adore EP but loathe the mechanics, and FATE is my favorite system, so this is a match made in heaven - but things seem to have been awful quiet on this front. Any news?

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
We're getting closer to the

We're getting closer to the playtest. Busy time of year, lots going on! :)

Abhoth Abhoth's picture
Would you have a ETA for the

Would you have a ETA for the playtest now?

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
When we have something to

When we have something to announce, we'll announce it!

RickJonzz RickJonzz's picture
My guess (based on what I've

My guess (based on what I've seen other companies do) is that after The Powers That Be run some demos at Gencon, they will incorporate lessons learned (which would be a few weeks to a month, depending on what they learned) and then unleash the public playtest.

RPG companies hate to announce something and miss a deadline, so they tend to sit on dates until they know they're going to hit them.

jackgraham jackgraham's picture
Well, I have an update!

Still no dates, but here's what the EP Fate team has been up to. Fate ran at Gen Con, and we got generally positive response along with some great, detailed feedback from our GMs. We also held a Fate Q&A with Ryan Macklin at our booth on Saturday afternoon, whereat he had a bunch of people bending his ear about the ongoing design process. Ryan is working on incorporating all of this feedback into the first Beta draft.

The scenario I wrote, a Jovian diplomacy/espionage piece titled "Sympathy for Uncle Silence," generally got thumbs up, which was nice, considering I'd never written a Fate scenario before! But I'm going to give the nod on this to the GMs, whose good instincts probably deserve more credit than what I put to paper.

I've also run the Alpha draft once for my group (using this same scenario), and we found it played quite smoothly -- especially given that none of us had ever played Fate. Compared to a Core EP game, the pace was much faster, with less careful planning and more bold action. Fate, of course, is great at enabling this sort of thing. I found players who are normally very cautious actors jumping in and rolling with stuff that they'd never do in Core EP, driven by the lure of sweet, sweet Fate points.

Remaining to-do before we go into beta: fine tuning of combat, and a bit more work on subsystems like Psi and the Mesh. We had limited versions of these in the Alpha, and I like the direction Ryan is taking them -- so it just remains to get them humming in full detail.

We've got some nice momentum on this project coming out of the show, so I expect to have another update for you soon!

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Quincey Forder Quincey Forder's picture
"Ladies and gets, I give you...

Jin-Aural, the first Ear Bending Master in a new generation!"
Tenzin, "Venom of the Red Lotus"

Aside from this potentially spoilerly bad pun, I'm really excited about this.
I think it'll fit great for my group, who likes lighter system to favor narration, including in combat.
At this time, we're mostly using a French made system from the games Dragons De Poche and Nanochrome. They had asked me if I could make an NC version of EP, but it's really a daunting task and too heavy for my skills and time table. So I think Fate will provide a really good alternative

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RickJonzz RickJonzz's picture
Thanks for the update, Jack.

Thanks for the update, Jack.

Neon_Samurai Neon_Samurai's picture
Thanks Jack

As one of the people who backed solely for the Fate Conversion Guide I really appreciate the update.

det det's picture
Wow, finally an update!

Wow, finally an update! Thanks jack!
I really can't wait for it...FATE has become my go-to system for any party now, it's just the one I'm more comfortable with and EP remains my favorite rpg!

atamajakki atamajakki's picture
Update?

What's the latest news? Will the clanking masses ever be able to see the alpha that was played at GenCon? Will anyone ever learn that gatecrashing will be the undoing of transhumanity?

jackgraham jackgraham's picture
atamajakki wrote:What's the

atamajakki wrote:
What's the latest news? Will the clanking masses ever be able to see the alpha that was played at GenCon?

Yes. Next week, if not sooner.

That is all I have to say for now.

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AdamJury AdamJury's picture
And the playtest is live:
atamajakki atamajakki's picture
Sympathy for Uncle Silence

Any chance we'll see the GenCon adventure during this playtest?

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
atamajakki wrote:Any chance

atamajakki wrote:
Any chance we'll see the GenCon adventure during this playtest?

There's a chance, but we need to give it another dev pass and we didn't want to color the playtesting experience by having everyone run through the same scenario first-thing.

jackgraham jackgraham's picture
Yeah, the Gen Con scenario

Yeah, the Gen Con scenario was me, with really limited experience, trying to figure out how to write a Fate scenario. I'm less willing to subject the general public to it than I was to our awesome & long-suffering con GMs. Also it's written using the Alpha rules, so needs a pass.

Also strong second on what Adam said r/e having people do the same scenario. Fate is by its nature very freewheeling, and I wouldn't want to constrain that. You guys will find way more interesting stuff to tell us about left to your own devices!

It will see the light of day at some point, though. We're going to play it by ear whether that's during the playtest. Thanks for the vote in favor of getting it out, in any case.

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eaton eaton's picture
I'm about to take a group of

I'm about to take a group of new players through Continuity with the "standard" rules, and one of them is an experienced Fate GM. I'll run the playtest rules past him and see if he has any thoughts on it after the session.

atamajakki atamajakki's picture
When can we expect the next

When can we expect the next update?

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
It's being worked on. Still

It's being worked on. Still taking the time to do things right. :)

Quincey Forder Quincey Forder's picture
any hint on what will be kept and what will be changed/added

I'm especially looking forward the rules on psychosurgery (especially to cure the mental Consequences) and nanofabrication.

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doublethink doublethink's picture
Release for Gen Con?

Release for Gen Con?

bblonski bblonski's picture
My guess

I'm guessing they'll do another playtest at gen con then maybe do another open beta test? I'm still excited for it, but I don't think a finished product is in the immediate future.

Gee4orce Gee4orce's picture
Throw us a bone

Please can we have some kind of statement about this ? It was promised as part of the kickstarter and we're over a year down the line and nothing other that a flawed playtest document.

I love Posthuman's products, but you guys have seriously dropped the ball on this one.

If you're struggling with it can't you get some additional help ? The Evil Hat guys seem to be very good at adaptations - can't they help out ?

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Jack's been hard at work on a

Jack's been hard at work on a complete revision, which will be used for the Fate games at Gen Con this week, and then the second public playtest pack will be rolled out.

It's later than we wanted and intended, absolutely. It's also going to be better, and that's the most important thing in the long run.

Gee4orce Gee4orce's picture
Thanks

Thanks Adam - looking forward to seeing it

the8bitdeity the8bitdeity's picture
Very much looking forward to

Very much looking forward to an update on the Eclipse Fate rules, hoping to do an EP + fate campaign in the near future with my gaming group.

zarkow zarkow's picture
Do you have a release date

Do you have a release date yet?

/David Bergkvist, Göteborg, Sweden

jackgraham jackgraham's picture
zarkow wrote:Do you have a

zarkow wrote:
Do you have a release date yet?

For the PDF, any day now.

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jiyunatori jiyunatori's picture
neat !

neat !

my next game is sunday ... *crossing fingers*

Quincey Forder Quincey Forder's picture
TF for Transhuman backers

Heya!
I saw there's a release on the 9th for the backers.
But is it for all the backers of Transhuman or just for backers of a certain tier?

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jiyunatori jiyunatori's picture
HELL YEAH, got it ! :D

HELL YEAH, got it ! :D

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Transhumanity's Fate is now

Transhumanity's Fate is now available to eligible Transhuman Kickstarter backers!:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/507486226/transhuman-the-eclipse-phase-players-guide/posts/1514297

It will go on sale to the general public on March 16th (PDF) and later this summer (Print).

doublethink doublethink's picture
It's March 16th!

At least, here in Aus. Looking forward to the finished product.

jackgraham jackgraham's picture
doublethink wrote:At least,

doublethink wrote:
At least, here in Aus. Looking forward to the finished product.

Sorry, it might end up being pretty late at night for you! Our releases generally happen when Canadians are awake. :)

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Quincey Forder Quincey Forder's picture
and in european times?

Around what time will Transhuman Fate be released?

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