Can software and blueprints be carried with you when egocasting?

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Libertad Libertad's picture
Can software and blueprints be carried with you when egocasting?

So I was checking out this EP character generator for making presets, and I noticed that it listed AIs, software, etc, as its own category. Most gear is divided between the morphs you have:

http://eclipsephase.next-loop.com/Creator/version4/index.php

And it did raise a question: even in our modern day electronic storage spaces can allow us to grab PDFs, videos, and anything virtual no matter where we are in the world. I presume a similar function would be in Eclipse Phase's Mesh (provided you have the security clearance for certain items).

I looked in the core rulebook's section on software, and it did not say anything one way or another.

Am I mistaken in my thoughts?


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~George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
From my understanding, you

From my understanding, you get to keep all your files, software, and other data when you egocast. I found some helpful egocasting information in Transhuman p. 181 in the very last paragraph.

Quote:
No, there’s no reason to keep all this crap around.
You know what you can carry with you when you
egocast? Blueprints. Skills. Expertise. That’s where the
real operator lives. Not in the physical implements,
but in the program running on the metal or the meat.
jackgraham jackgraham's picture
Yes, egocasting (unless the

Yes, egocasting (unless the GM is messing with you) includes your muse, data, software... basically anything that lives in your mesh inserts.

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Voormas Voormas's picture
I asked a semi-related

I asked a semi-related question to this a while ago; Farcasting and Customs

Essentially if you take all this data with you, like yea you can encrypt it but surely no polity is going to be like "oh well fair enough, you don't want to declare those hacking tools that's fine by us!" - I eventually privately just decided to always assume Firewall people use darkcasting and leave it at that ;)

o11o1 o11o1's picture
If the Blueprints are

If the Blueprints are encrypted well enough they might not know -what- you're actually bringing with you. Or it may seem to be generic media files until you fix it on arrival.

A slight smell of ions....

ThatWhichNeverWas ThatWhichNeverWas's picture
Welcome to Mars. We will now subject you to a full Audit.

In my personal cannon, everthing is encrypted as a single package.
Remember, your data also includes every piece of private information you have, including your finances, personal accounts, access codes, licences/deeds of ownership, and the software you run in your brain.
I've also noted in other threads that functionally embedding data into the Ego itself isn't hard thanks to Psychosurgery.

In the past we've had to compensate for weaknesses, finding quick solutions that only benefit a few.
But what if we never need to feel weak or morally conflicted again?

Libertad Libertad's picture
I know this is coming in

I know this is coming in superlate, but thank you for all your responses.

Makes stocking up on blueprints at chargen a better long-term solution, barring restricted technologies and such. But I suppose that fits rather well with the post-scarcity setting.


"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."
~George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

nerdnumber1 nerdnumber1's picture
I think of it like luggage.

I think of it like luggage. You are allowed some, though you might need to pay extra if you have too much (like 7 version-controlled personal back-ups and 3 stored beta forks).

Customs may or may not insist you open your encrypted digital luggage for inspection. Some governments favor privacy and personal liberty, others favor security. It's a wide spectrum. Maybe they even do "random" checks on people with low rep. In the inner system, they can probably "expedite" the process for a high c-rep VIP (no check), but some anarchist without c-rep is probably smuggling all sorts of pirated software.

nerdnumber1 nerdnumber1's picture
I've been thinking more about

I've been thinking more about what bandwidth limitations there are with egocasting. There is mention of people using full or partial forks/AGI as muses or storing pre-pruned forks for convenience. The data should be equal to multiple egos in these cases. Most software is probably of negligible size next to an ego, but egos, and maybe beta forks, aren't.

Xagroth Xagroth's picture
nerdnumber1 wrote:I've been

nerdnumber1 wrote:
I've been thinking more about what bandwidth limitations there are with egocasting. There is mention of people using full or partial forks/AGI as muses or storing pre-pruned forks for convenience. The data should be equal to multiple egos in these cases. Most software is probably of negligible size next to an ego, but egos, and maybe beta forks, aren't.

I doubt Bandwith is really a problem of "what they let you carry on yourself", but more of a "how long it takes for you to be downloaded there", which is most certainly negotiated by your muse (which pruned fork you can send beforehand. And I say "pruned" in the "all passwords, logins, and other sensitive data removed" way).

If we want to define how costly is to egocast from one place to another... This might be the direct factors:

* The more traffic it has, the more it costs (Offer/Demand)

* The fastest you want to be downloaded there and start resleeving, the more it costs (Priority)

* The more reputable the facility, the more it costs (Reliability. Using Nine Lives is cheap, since they "charge" a copy of your ego they might or might not be able to use).

* The more/valuable morphs the facility can provide, the more it costs (Variety, since they have to pay for the storage and the like).

Bandwith would be an indirect factor, since what matters is not how much bandwith a facility has (for the ego traveler) but how many people want to go, and how much in a hurry are they.

nerdnumber1 nerdnumber1's picture
Xagroth wrote:nerdnumber1

Xagroth wrote:
nerdnumber1 wrote:
I've been thinking more about what bandwidth limitations there are with egocasting. There is mention of people using full or partial forks/AGI as muses or storing pre-pruned forks for convenience. The data should be equal to multiple egos in these cases. Most software is probably of negligible size next to an ego, but egos, and maybe beta forks, aren't.

I doubt Bandwith is really a problem of "what they let you carry on yourself", but more of a "how long it takes for you to be downloaded there", which is most certainly negotiated by your muse (which pruned fork you can send beforehand. And I say "pruned" in the "all passwords, logins, and other sensitive data removed" way).

If we want to define how costly is to egocast from one place to another... This might be the direct factors:

* The more traffic it has, the more it costs (Offer/Demand)

* The fastest you want to be downloaded there and start resleeving, the more it costs (Priority)

* The more reputable the facility, the more it costs (Reliability. Using Nine Lives is cheap, since they "charge" a copy of your ego they might or might not be able to use).

* The more/valuable morphs the facility can provide, the more it costs (Variety, since they have to pay for the storage and the like).

Bandwith would be an indirect factor, since what matters is not how much bandwith a facility has (for the ego traveler) but how many people want to go, and how much in a hurry are they.

I was assuming the most costly factor (or the factor they charged for) was the amount of data you're moving. So you pay per ego. I mean, could someone carry backups of all their friends in their digital luggage for the cost of one ticket? Carrying stored backups and forks could be similar in data size.