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Morph Recognition Guide/card

Is it still possible to preorder a copy of the Morph recognition guide/cards? If not, will they be available for retail as a hard copy item (not just a pdf)?

Thanks.

Urthdigger Urthdigger's picture
Been wondering this ever

Been wondering this ever since I saw this thread but... what is the morph recognition guide?

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
The Morph Recognition Guide

The Morph Recognition Guide and Cards are a book and set of cards, respectively, that compile all the morphs published in Eclipse Phase books into one title. The guide has a compilation of morph-related rules, as well.

Urthdigger Urthdigger's picture
Oh nice. Is it just compiled

Oh nice. Is it just compiled data, or are there new appearance/lore stuff and pictures?

RobBoyle RobBoyle's picture
Mostly compiled stuff, but

Mostly compiled stuff, but there is a lot of new art (we show every morph) and some IC text about the morphs (in the guide).

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

ShadowDragon8685 ShadowDragon8685's picture
RobBoyle wrote:Mostly

RobBoyle wrote:
Mostly compiled stuff, but there is a lot of new art (we show every morph✌) and some IC text about the morphs (in the guide).

✌I don't have any money to throw at my monitor!

(But if I did, would it do anything?)

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Yay, glad to hear it!

Yay, glad to hear it!

CodeBreaker CodeBreaker's picture
Will the Scurrier have the

Will the Scurrier have the right number of limbs this time? What? It's a very important question!

As the once Morph-guy of the forums, this is by far the product I was most looking forward to seeing in the kickstarter. If for no other reason than to see an illustration of that large-genitalia'd raccoon thing from Transhuman.

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Urthdigger Urthdigger's picture
Yeah, I am expecting the art

Yeah, I am expecting the art to focus on accuracy for this, given it's the morph recognition guide. So, right number of arms, gliding membrane, mechanical tail, etc.

Also, wait, what?

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Urthdigger wrote:Yeah, I am

Urthdigger wrote:
Yeah, I am expecting the art to focus on accuracy for this, given it's the morph recognition guide. So, right number of arms, gliding membrane, mechanical tail, etc.

Also, wait, what?

I think Rocky (The Thunderfuck Squirrel!) has entered the forum zeitgeist as being representative of Scurriers. :)

It actually wasn't that big, Urthdigger decided on: five inches or so. Which is, admittedly, kind of freaking huge on a frame the size of a raccoon, but there's a sheathe.

It gets better, too. We actually hashed out what it looked like and how it worked. Exotic Equipment indeed.

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Chernoborg Chernoborg's picture
For those who can't wait

Check out Adam Jury's tumblr for a sneak peek at some of the art.

I'll admit it, I *squeed* a little when I saw them!

The well endowed raccoon-thing ...you mean the Jenkin?

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Urthdigger Urthdigger's picture
...I really don't think

...I really don't think anyone was asking for a description.

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Urthdigger wrote:...I really

Urthdigger wrote:
...I really don't think anyone was asking for a description.

Then they should be glad I didn't provide one. :)

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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:Then

ShadowDragon8685 wrote:
Then they should be glad I didn't provide one. :)

I'm pretty sure this:
"It actually wasn't that big, Urthdigger decided on: five inches or so. Which is, admittedly, kind of freaking huge on a frame the size of a raccoon, but there's a sheathe.

It gets better, too. We actually hashed out what it looked like and how it worked."

counts as a description. (And generally more details than I - personally - would ever like to hear about the genitalia of small fuzzy animals.)

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ThatWhichNeverWas ThatWhichNeverWas's picture
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:We

ShadowDragon8685 wrote:
We actually hashed out what it looked like and how it worked.

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Why?

In the past we've had to compensate for weaknesses, finding quick solutions that only benefit a few.
But what if we never need to feel weak or morally conflicted again?

Urthdigger Urthdigger's picture
Because she was curious

Because she was curious mostly. Shadow, I don't mind you sharing those details... when all present want those details. In this case, we were discussing scurriers, and then a comment was made about a different well-endowed morph. Nobody was asking about a scurrier's junk, so please make sure that's what people want before sharing my details again.

Back on topic, I checked out Adam Jury's blog and saw the art. Some I recognized, most I did not. Can't wait to see the rest.

ShadowDragon8685 ShadowDragon8685's picture
ThatWhichNeverWas wrote

ThatWhichNeverWas wrote:
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:
We actually hashed out what it looked like and how it worked.

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Why?

Boredom and curiosity, mainly. Also, he decided to offhandedly seduce the kind of NPC who would broadwave the XP to the whole solar system.

Urthdigger wrote:
Because she was curious mostly. Shadow, I don't mind you sharing those details... when all present want those details. In this case, we were discussing scurriers, and then a comment was made about a different well-endowed morph. Nobody was asking about a scurrier's junk, so please make sure that's what people want before sharing my details again.

Sorry. I saw "well-endowed raccoon thing," and immediately thought "Well, that could only be Scurriers, couldn't it?"

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Back on topic, I checked out Adam Jury's blog and saw the art. Some I recognized, most I did not. Can't wait to see the rest.

Link? Linklinklink?

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A thing of beauty is a joy forever

Just got it and....
it.
is.
AWESOME!

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yes, it is nice. I like the

yes, it is nice. I like the vibe with the chatters giving some feedback.

Chernoborg Chernoborg's picture
They are a nice touch,

They are a nice touch, especially the nod to urthdigger on the scurrier page! I'd been kicking around the idea of a swarmanoid doing the "ball bearing" trick and to see that mentioned gave me such a grin :). Usually I pictured the Samsa to be a bit like the Garthim this version works just fine!

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Taejix Taejix's picture
It's lovely to see pictures

It's lovely to see pictures of all the morphs, I must admit.

And the Shadowrun-esque chatter's pretty cool. Are we going to be seeing that in future books?

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Great

It really a great book; the comments are fantastic.

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Any word on when those who

Any word on when those who missed the kick starter could obtain the guide?

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MAD Crab wrote:Any word on

MAD Crab wrote:
Any word on when those who missed the kick starter could obtain the guide?

PDF: July 16th
Print: TBA
CodeBreaker CodeBreaker's picture
Oh awesome, that quickly. I

Oh awesome, that quickly. I was expecting a bit of a wait. Fantastic.

Will there be a Hack Pack with all the morph images already ripped, or is that something I can expect to do myself?

P.S, most important question, how many limbs does the Scurrier image have?

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nerol-1 nerol-1's picture
Good!

Great product, really.
The size comparison is a great idea. I thought Flats were taller, as tall as the average human morphs :-)

The image of the scurrier is the same of the manual and it has 4 limbs (plus a tail)

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Great product with great

Great product with great artwork! Some of the "shadowtalk" is funny as hell - a user with the handle "Voight-Kampff" who talks about the limited lifespan of pre-Fall pods, also the comments about the scurrier's high-pitched voice...

One question: Where can I give feedback about typos, missing page numbers and similar stuff? I've found some mistakes and I'd like to help!

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I used to make an errata

I used to make an errata thread for each release. That worked quite well. Someone who actually has the product might think about doing the same.

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Armoured Armoured's picture
Shiny and new

Really enjoying the book thus far. Most of the artwork is lush, and the description paragraphs, though short, give a great idea of who would use them, where in the system and for what purposes. I'd say the main worry as a GM is making sure not to sleeve every NPC in a cool, unique morph... most of these are supposed to be rare!

My only quibble, having skimmed through it, is the use of "moffie"as slang for a pleasure pod in its chat commentary. Its South African slang for a homosexual, but is almost exclusively used here in a negative fashion, much like "faggot" would be in the US. I'm sure PS+ or the contributors didn't mean anything by it, but I wonder if its connotations were appreciated by a non-South African while adding it to the book.

Urthdigger Urthdigger's picture
Chernoborg wrote:They are a

Chernoborg wrote:
They are a nice touch, especially the nod to urthdigger on the scurrier page!

I need this even more now.

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Jet Black wrote:One question:

Jet Black wrote:
One question: Where can I give feedback about typos, missing page numbers and similar stuff? I've found some mistakes and I'd like to help!

The best way to do this is always by sending it to

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Armoured wrote:

Armoured wrote:

My only quibble, having skimmed through it, is the use of "moffie"as slang for a pleasure pod in its chat commentary. Its South African slang for a homosexual, but is almost exclusively used here in a negative fashion, much like "faggot" would be in the US. I'm sure PS+ or the contributors didn't mean anything by it, but I wonder if its connotations were appreciated by a non-South African while adding it to the book.

Slang probably wouldn't remain unchanged over so long, but for a pleasure pod slang might not be positive, either. In EP there's a bias against pods, and pleasure pods could get it the worst.

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Samsa Intimidation

So, I have a question. The Samsa gets a +20 bonus to intimidation checks, but also -20 to social skills. Is this meant to cancel out so your intimidation stays the same, or is it supposed to apply a +20 bonus with intimidation being unaffected by the -20?

By which I mean, if you have 45 intimidation, and the Samsa gives you +20 intimidation so you have 65, should it be like that, despite the -20 to social skills nullifying the +20 intimidation (so it would stay 45) or is it supposed to nullify it?

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Lord_Asmodeus wrote: The

Lord_Asmodeus wrote:
The Samsa gets a +20 bonus to intimidation checks, but also -20 to social skills. Is this meant to cancel out so your intimidation stays the same, or is it supposed to apply a +20 bonus with intimidation being unaffected by the -20?

The intent is that it's supposed to be +20 to Intimidation, unaffected by the Unattractive trait (which, if anything, would help the intimidation in this case.)

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

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RobBoyle wrote:Lord_Asmodeus

RobBoyle wrote:
Lord_Asmodeus wrote:
The Samsa gets a +20 bonus to intimidation checks, but also -20 to social skills. Is this meant to cancel out so your intimidation stays the same, or is it supposed to apply a +20 bonus with intimidation being unaffected by the -20?

The intent is that it's supposed to be +20 to Intimidation, unaffected by the Unattractive trait (which, if anything, would help the intimidation in this case.)

Thanks for clarifying that. It's a bit confusing is all, if it can be helped it seems like that and other apparent contradictions from conflicting advantages/disadvantages like that could be clarified when they appear.

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On use of slang

Smokeskin wrote:
Slang probably wouldn't remain unchanged over so long, but for a pleasure pod slang might not be positive, either. In EP there's a bias against pods, and pleasure pods could get it the worst.

I'll grant you that in-universe such slang might be used, but there is still the question of whether it is appropriate for a out-of-context quote within an official sourcebook. It is entirely comparable with a comment in the book calling a male sylph a "faggot morph", or a reference to something as a nigger. That is the way the word is used in local language in South Africa.

I'm not going to make this into a crusade, but I just thought I'd try to explain it clearly. The slur struck me as being really out of place, especially with the otherwise overwhelmingly inclusive directions taken by Posthuman Studios.

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Armoured wrote:Smokeskin

Armoured wrote:
Smokeskin wrote:
Slang probably wouldn't remain unchanged over so long, but for a pleasure pod slang might not be positive, either. In EP there's a bias against pods, and pleasure pods could get it the worst.

I'll grant you that in-universe such slang might be used, but there is still the question of whether it is appropriate for a out-of-context quote within an official sourcebook. It is entirely comparable with a comment in the book calling a male sylph a "faggot morph", or a reference to something as a nigger. That is the way the word is used in local language in South Africa.

I'm not going to make this into a crusade, but I just thought I'd try to explain it clearly. The slur struck me as being really out of place, especially with the otherwise overwhelmingly inclusive directions taken by Posthuman Studios.

Email maybe there is time to change it before the book hits the printers.

But as Gen Con is 30 days away it may be too late.

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Armoured wrote:My only

Armoured wrote:
My only quibble, having skimmed through it, is the use of "moffie"as slang for a pleasure pod in its chat commentary. Its South African slang for a homosexual, but is almost exclusively used here in a negative fashion, much like "faggot" would be in the US.

I'm the one who put that line in. When I was coming up with slang terms, I intentionally went looking for a non-English term roughly along the lines of "fag" in English, with the idea that over time, terms are often recuperated and turned around and used in other ways, much like "queer" was reappropriated by the gay rights movement into a positive thing. There's power in taking terms that are offensive and repurposing them, stripping them of that offensive context. With pleasure pods in particular, I figured that some of those old homophobic terms would have have been taken and given new context more appropriate to EP's culture(s). After all, the setting of EP with its body-swapping of any sex and pleasure pods with their fluid sexual characteristics really help to address how ridiculous homophobic notions like that are and will be in the future.

I understand that it might raise an eyebrow with someone reading it who's aware of its current usage. Not being South African, I of course don't know the full cultural impact of that term, and using slang from outside your normal cultural context is always potentially dangerous territory. We're obviously opposed to homophobia, though, and I expect our readers can grok the intent and see that we're not using it in that derogatory context.

Thanks for bring it up, though -- I appreciate that our customers catch stuff like this and bring their concerns to our attention. I hope you realize where we were coming from and take the whole line about pleasure pod slang as an exploration of how such things might really be in the future, and not with any sort of offensive intent -- and also as an opportunity to discuss these kinds of things.

Rob Boyle :: Posthuman Studios

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Morph Recognition Guide is

Morph Recognition Guide is now available: http://eclipsephase.com/morph-recognition-guide-pdf-online

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AdamJury wrote:Morph

AdamJury wrote:
Morph Recognition Guide is now available: http://eclipsephase.com/morph-recognition-guide-pdf-online

Its so big....
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You sneaky...

You sneaky...

on Scurriers wrote:
Plasmid: There are two models of these floating around: quadrupred and
hexaped. The former is for people that don’t adjust to the extra limbs as well.

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in all seriousness thank you

in all seriousness thank you thank thank you for this book. it really helps consolidate all the morph and biomods and cyberware across half a dozen books into one place. only thing better would be EP's integration into a place like d20srd

Also can anyone confirm that it is supposed to end on the morph consipiracies segment with no follow up credits and references section and the like? drive through rpg source 130 page pdf

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ORCACommander wrote:

ORCACommander wrote:

in all seriousness thank you thank thank you for this book. it really helps consolidate all the morph and biomods and cyberware across half a dozen books into one place. only thing better would be EP's integration into a place like d20srd

Bibliophile did something like that at one point, I'll ask him if he doesn't mind me spreading the link around.

EDIT: Here's a link. He says it's not complete or comprehensive, and it's unlikely that anything from new publications will be added. I might start going through and updating it in the fall, though. (So I guess PM me if you find something missing)

https://sites.google.com/site/talariusgroup/stock-settings/eclipse-phase/mechanics

You, too, were made by humans. The methods used were just cruder, imprecise. I guess that explains a lot.

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ORCACommander wrote:Also can

ORCACommander wrote:
Also can anyone confirm that it is supposed to end on the morph consipiracies segment with no follow up credits and references section and the like? drive through rpg source 130 page pdf

Yes. It's a 128 page book.
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awesome eru thank bibilo for

awesome eru thank bibilo for me

ah good to know adam just not used to books of any kind just ending like that :P

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Well, I finally have my own

Well, I finally have my own copy. Can't see the alleged reference to me, unless they mean the bit on quadruped variants so folks like me shut up about the image used :P

In any case, loving this. I've been a scurrier since the day I picked up this game, but having a nice way to look through them all, with images and lore bits on each, made me really consider branching out to other morphs. Even some of the human ones!

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Does this book list neutral

Does this book list neutral traits? It certainly lists a number of positive and negative traits (and many other things), but I can't find table with the neutral traits listed. I'm talking like "Alien Biochemistry" in Gatecrashing and "Large Size" in Transhuman.

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DW i think that is because

DW i think that is because the guide completely lacks the build your own morph section from transhuman

DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
Morph creation rules or not,

Morph creation rules or not, I don't think that should matter at all. Traits like alien biochemistry and large size does have an impact on the game. If you are going to list all the positive and negative traits, all gear, and all morphs in the game, but not neutral traits, you're going to have an incomplete list of things.

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I'm still just giggling over

I'm still just giggling over the reference to one of my screen names in here. *does the squealing fangirl dance for a moment then goes back to being the faceless infomorph*

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