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AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Wageslave wrote:What is the

Wageslave wrote:
What is the proper forum to indicate delivery preferences for a Kickstarter funding level, and is there any flexibility on how one's name appears on the credits? I've contributed, I'd like to pick things up at GenCon if possible, and would prefer to have a much less formal name than the one attached to more official documentation credited?

Hey Wageslave -- thanks for backing! :) When the Kickstarter ends, we'll be sending around Backer Surveys to everyone, and shipping/credits/etc. will be handled then!
Wageslave Wageslave's picture
Thank you very much for the

Thank you very much for the prompt response.

And to use the terminology of those crazy Extropians, 'I liked the prospectus so much I bought in!'

"Work is fun, when you want to do it!" --Jay Donohue

Lysus Lysus's picture
Just saw the new stretch

Just saw the new stretch goals! I'm super pumped to see the 90 and 100k goals. While I love the detailed, customizable character creation, it can take quite a while and it's a lot easier to get new players into the system when that step doesn't take hours. For that reason and a few others, I'd already though about trying to convert EP to Fate at some point, so I'd be ecstatic if we make it there.

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
We just hit 80K and unlocked

We just hit 80K and unlocked a brand new adventure from the team behind Know Evil -- and not only did we hit such a dollar amount, but we're north of 1400 backers now, which is awesome. Thanks so much!

Onto Singularity and the Eclipse Phase Fate Conversion Guide!

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
FYI -- Kickstarter backers

FYI -- Kickstarter backers can add $30 to any pledge level for a pre-order of Singularity and access to the beta version (summer 2013).

If we somehow don't hit the $90K level to unlock Singularity, we'll evaluate interest in it and either move ahead while honoring the add-ons, or issue $30 in credit to those who pledged extra towards it.

Decivre Decivre's picture
AdamJury wrote:FYI --

AdamJury wrote:
FYI -- Kickstarter backers can add $30 to any pledge level for a pre-order of Singularity and access to the beta version (summer 2013).

If we somehow don't hit the $90K level to unlock Singularity, we'll evaluate interest in it and either move ahead while honoring the add-ons, or issue $30 in credit to those who pledged extra towards it.

Out of curiosity, are we able to purchase add-ons through this site for our kickstarter purchase? I'm wondering because while I want to drop extra for Singularity, I want to hold off until such a time that it's actually unlocked. If that doesn't happen until AFTER the kickstarter is over, I'd like the possibility to get it.

The FATE conversion book is free for those who got the "PDF and all extras" tier or higher, right? What about the epubs?

Transhumans will one day be the Luddites of the posthuman age.

Help me get my gaming fix, if you want.

thelabmonkey thelabmonkey's picture
I posted this on the

I posted this on the kickstarter site, but I'd like to repost here:

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Woah, woah... I kickstarted in order to unlock this software, but now I have to pay an extra $30? That was not explained on the main page... just in this update. I don't feel like that's how stretch goals are supposed to work... I thought a stretch goal was something that got included in the actual kickstarter project.

Also, it sounds like you were already developing this software - "Singularity already supports character generation according to the core rulebook, and Snow Dog Labs is working on support for the Packs and Lifepath systems that we are adding in Transhuman!" So we "unlocked" something that was going to be developed anyway and then also have to pay extra to *use* the thing we unlocked? To quote Inigo Montoya: "This word... I do not think it means what you think it means."

I realize that you have mentioned in posts here and an update in the kickstarter site, but the main page lead backers to believe that by unlocking Singularity, it would be a part of the kickstarter package. It felt like a bait-and-switch and I'm seriously considering cancelling my backing status since I can A) get the book for the same price after it's published, and B) will have to pay for the Singularity software anyway.

[edit] Ok, I did just see the "digital add-on" image on the homepage now... and after reading more in depth about addons and the 3rd party nature of the software, I'm less tantrumy. Sorry. I just got all excited and felt like the rug was pulled out...

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
thelabmonkey wrote:[edit] Ok,

thelabmonkey wrote:
[edit] Ok, I did just see the "digital add-on" image on the homepage now... and after reading more in depth about addons and the 3rd party nature of the software, I'm less tantrumy. Sorry. I just got all excited and felt like the rug was pulled out...

labmonkey, I was in the middle of writing up a reply to you when a friend arrived and I had to take some time to hang out with him. In the meantime, you posted your edit. Things are very busy now with the KS, but if you want me to finish my reply/explanation to you, let me know. And of course, thanks for your support. :)

Lysus Lysus's picture
Is there going to be an

Is there going to be an option to get the physical copy of the Eclipse Phase Fate Conversion Guide to existing backer levels? I'm not seeing it right now, but I'd really like to add it to my pledge.

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Lysus wrote:Is there going to

Lysus wrote:
Is there going to be an option to get the physical copy of the Eclipse Phase Fate Conversion Guide to existing backer levels? I'm not seeing it right now, but I'd really like to add it to my pledge.

Lysus, you can add Fate Conversion Guide for $25 if you are domestic, and $35 with international shipping. (It probably will ship after Transhuman.)

Lysus Lysus's picture
$100,000! We made it. =)

$100,000! We made it. =)

thelabmonkey thelabmonkey's picture
AdamJury wrote:thelabmonkey

AdamJury wrote:
thelabmonkey wrote:
[edit] Ok, I did just see the "digital add-on" image on the homepage now... and after reading more in depth about addons and the 3rd party nature of the software, I'm less tantrumy. Sorry. I just got all excited and felt like the rug was pulled out...

labmonkey, I was in the middle of writing up a reply to you when a friend arrived and I had to take some time to hang out with him. In the meantime, you posted your edit. Things are very busy now with the KS, but if you want me to finish my reply/explanation to you, let me know. And of course, thanks for your support. :)

No, I'm good now. There's just so much going on in that kickstarter page I didn't really understand what it all meant until after the fact. I'm still backing at a slightly different tier, just had to go in and re-read everything more carefully. Sorry to get all kermit-arms on everyone.

kowalzcky kowalzcky's picture
Finally in! I choose the 60$

Finally in! I choose the 60$ option plus the 30$ for shipping outside the US.

Just one question, this is my firts time with kickstarter....what addres do you use for shipping, the one from my amazon account?

Smokeskin Smokeskin's picture
Can you combine two packages,

Can you combine two packages, so you get both the Fate and Transhuman stuff?

CodeBreaker CodeBreaker's picture
Stupid real life, stupid

Stupid real life, stupid unemployment. I really wanted to help you guys out, but last minute financials makes that impossible. Really wanted that Ultimate Fabber. Oh well! Hopefully someone else picks it up.

Really happy for you guys, hopefully this will help get us more stuff to tinker with =)

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AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Smokeskin wrote:Can you

Smokeskin wrote:
Can you combine two packages, so you get both the Fate and Transhuman stuff?

Yes -- the easiest way is to add $25 to your pledge for Fate Conversion Guide in print, shipped domestically, or $35 to your pledge for it to be shipped internationally.

Any pledge level that says "plus any other brand-new PDFs released as part of this Kickstarter" includes the Fate Conversion Guide PDF, as well!

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
We are in the final 6 hours

We are in the final 6 hours of the campaign, with one stretch goal: at $120,000, we pay a bonus to freelancers working on the stretch goals and on Firewall!

I posted a big summary yesterday afternoon; if you haven't checked it out, please do: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/507486226/transhuman-the-eclipse-phase-players-guide/posts/487452

Ranxerox Ranxerox's picture
Query

Will the Fate Conversion Guide be coming out in ebook form and if so about how much do you think it will cost?



AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Ranxerox wrote:Will the Fate

Ranxerox wrote:
Will the Fate Conversion Guide be coming out in ebook form and if so about how much do you think it will cost?

It will be a PDF; we don't know yet if it will be available as an ePub. That will depend on interest down the line.

The PDF is $5 as part of the Kickstarter, we haven't announced pricing for it post-Kickstarter.

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Thanks so much for all your

Thanks so much for all your support during the Kickstarter, folks. We have a lot of work to do, and some great new opportunities opening up! :)

Decivre Decivre's picture
CodeBreaker wrote:Stupid real

CodeBreaker wrote:
Stupid real life, stupid unemployment. I really wanted to help you guys out, but last minute financials makes that impossible. Really wanted that Ultimate Fabber. Oh well! Hopefully someone else picks it up.

Really happy for you guys, hopefully this will help get us more stuff to tinker with =)

I know how you feel. I had to drop my chance to get a character in the core books because of real life obligations. So I ended up dropping my donation just so that I could still get all the stuff I wanted. I'll still need to do some overtime when I get done with this vacation.

Transhumans will one day be the Luddites of the posthuman age.

Help me get my gaming fix, if you want.

Mandella Mandella's picture
Congratulations on a very

Congratulations on a very successful kickstarter!!!

Just my luck, but I just checked in after a long absence to find that I've missed the chance to contribute by a mere three days!

I guess I'll just have to wait for publication to give you money...

;)

Decivre Decivre's picture
Mandella wrote

Mandella wrote:
Congratulations on a very successful kickstarter!!!

Just my luck, but I just checked in after a long absence to find that I've missed the chance to contribute by a mere three days!

I guess I'll just have to wait for publication to give you money...

;)

They will be starting a paypal pledging thing shortly, so that you can make paypal donations.

Actually, I think they've already implemented it, lemme see how to get to it....

EDIT: Found it, in the most obvious place.

Transhumans will one day be the Luddites of the posthuman age.

Help me get my gaming fix, if you want.

Armoured Armoured's picture
Current Rewards

I pledged in at Ultimate, because I'm a sucker for the sweet, sweet flesh of dead trees. It was also a great opportunity to give Posthuman some of my money, which I've been meaning to do for ages but its difficult to order the third printing of the core from overseas.

Yesterday I got coupon codes for DriveThruRPG for the core book and Sunward; I'm wondering if there has been a snag getting the Rimward and hack pack coupon codes out?

Has anyone else only gotten some of their codes?

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Armoured wrote:I pledged in

Armoured wrote:
I pledged in at Ultimate, because I'm a sucker for the sweet, sweet flesh of dead trees. It was also a great opportunity to give Posthuman some of my money, which I've been meaning to do for ages but its difficult to order the third printing of the core from overseas.

Yesterday I got coupon codes for DriveThruRPG for the core book and Sunward; I'm wondering if there has been a snag getting the Rimward and hack pack coupon codes out?

Has anyone else only gotten some of their codes?


Armoured,

The codes are going out staggered because:

a) sending out 1000+ codes out at time causes a strain on DriveThru's servers.
b) it's the weekend and I've been out with friends, playing board games, etc. :)

Armoured Armoured's picture
AdamJury wrote:The codes are

AdamJury wrote:
The codes are going out staggered because:

a) sending out 1000+ codes out at time causes a strain on DriveThru's servers.
b) it's the weekend and I've been out with friends, playing board games, etc. :)

Thanks for clearing that up! I suspected something like that, but there wasn't any announcements that I could find.

QubitBandit QubitBandit's picture
While I kicked in some, I'm

While I kicked in some, I'm not sure I'll be able to put in for the morph cards as an extra... I will be at GenCon though. Any chance of them showing up there?

Congrats on the 100k, btw!

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
QubitBandit wrote:While I

QubitBandit wrote:
While I kicked in some, I'm not sure I'll be able to put in for the morph cards as an extra... I will be at GenCon though. Any chance of them showing up there?

Hey QubitBandit -- thanks for kicking in! :)

The Morph Recognition Cards won't be ready for Gen Con; they rely on the new art being contracted for the Morph Recognition Guide, and that art can't be seriously worked on until after the Transhuman art is finished, which is in progress now.

We'll probably have some sample cards available at the show, though!

CodeBreaker CodeBreaker's picture
So I have a question about

So I have a question about the business side of things that you can of course feel free not to answer. The extra products that got funded by stretch goals. Are those considered 'paid off' when it comes to development costs?

Was each stretch goal amount determined by how much you assumed that that product might make? Like, in my mind $10,000 for an adventure sounds like quite a bit. Is the cost of producing an adventure by Caleb(RPPR) considered recovered simply by nature of being funded by the Kickstarter?

I don't have any particular need to know, I won't use the information at all. I am just endlessly curious about the actual economics of a kind of mid range rpg publisher.

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AdamJury AdamJury's picture
That's kind of a complicated

That's kind of a complicated subject. Some of the stretch goals will cost less to fulfill than others, which gives us some cushion against unexpected expenses.

There's also some variables that we simply can't answer -- for example, many pledge levels are going to get the PDFs of our stretch goals as part of their backer rewards. Is this absolutely going to tank our sales of those PDFs when we release them down the road? If the sales of those PDFs tank, how does that impact the rest of the line and its visibility? We also don't know how this will impact how much we'll sell at Gen Con, or what the first vital few months of Transhuman will be like through distribution/retail sales.

So, there's a lot of variables. I expect that in some cases, we're going to end up spending more than we anticipated on some of the stretch goals; that's just the nature of the beast.

And of course, we have a list of "long term" overall improvements to Posthuman, and hopefully we can funnel some of the profit from Transhuman into those things, after we are sure that we can fulfill all of the rewards and stretch goals, of course.

Decivre Decivre's picture
AdamJury wrote:That's kind of

AdamJury wrote:
That's kind of a complicated subject. Some of the stretch goals will cost less to fulfill than others, which gives us some cushion against unexpected expenses.

There's also some variables that we simply can't answer -- for example, many pledge levels are going to get the PDFs of our stretch goals as part of their backer rewards. Is this absolutely going to tank our sales of those PDFs when we release them down the road? If the sales of those PDFs tank, how does that impact the rest of the line and its visibility? We also don't know how this will impact how much we'll sell at Gen Con, or what the first vital few months of Transhuman will be like through distribution/retail sales.

I think you'll recoup any potential PDF losses simply by offering your books with a PoD option. I know that I'll probably buy the Morph Recognition Guide down the road as a PoD product. And I'm sure the FATE fans that get interested by the conversion guide will want a physical copy of that when it's available.

AdamJury wrote:
So, there's a lot of variables. I expect that in some cases, we're going to end up spending more than we anticipated on some of the stretch goals; that's just the nature of the beast.

And of course, we have a list of "long term" overall improvements to Posthuman, and hopefully we can funnel some of the profit from Transhuman into those things, after we are sure that we can fulfill all of the rewards and stretch goals, of course.

About these long term overall improvements, go on....

Transhumans will one day be the Luddites of the posthuman age.

Help me get my gaming fix, if you want.

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Decivre wrote:AdamJury wrote

Decivre wrote:

AdamJury wrote:
And of course, we have a list of "long term" overall improvements to Posthuman, and hopefully we can funnel some of the profit from Transhuman into those things, after we are sure that we can fulfill all of the rewards and stretch goals, of course.

About these long term overall improvements, go on....

I don't want to talk about these things too much, because they're by no means set in stone.

One of them is the "silly" stretch goal of buying 1000 ISBNs at the bulk rate of $1 each. (If you buy just 10 of them, they're $25 each, if you buy 100, they're $5.75 each) Who cares if we have 1000 ISBNs? Well, since some places like the iBookstore require us to have an ISBN for each title that is published there, we previously didn't put stuff on the iBookstore. Now we can put _everything_ that's in ePub format onto the iBookstore, even the $0.99 pieces of fiction, because they need to earn that much less to pay back those ISBNs.

The ISBNs themselves aren't exciting. But having them -- and using them to get into more venues, is a good thing long-term for the exposure of Eclipse Phase and hopefully for our profits.

Another small example -- we had a decent number of retailers back the Kickstarter project. All of them are going to get extra promotional material for EP, which will hopefully help grow the game in their area. We'll probably end up printing an excess of that material and distributing it to other stores. Six months ago, printing up a bunch of retailer-focused posters and mailing them out would have been something under the "nice to do, but we need to make a PDF or pay for part of the next print run with that money" category.

godmoney godmoney's picture
quick question

when should be expect the backer survey to come out? or has it already?

Semper Ubi Sub Ubi!?!

AdamJury AdamJury's picture
godmoney wrote:when should be

godmoney wrote:
when should be expect the backer survey to come out? or has it already?

No, the backer surveys haven't gone out yet. They might be out next week, but we've all been busy with Transhuman itself and other projects, like Shinobi Clans.

godmoney godmoney's picture
*silence

AdamJury wrote:
...like Shinobi Clans.

probably the last thing he typed... RIP!

Semper Ubi Sub Ubi!?!

Rada Ion Rada Ion's picture
Too late to pre-order?

I have been out of touch with what's going on in EP and had no idea there was a kick starter for Transhuman going on until now. Is it too late to donate to the project via the Transhuman page on this site, it looks like people can still get into it, but the Kick Starter itself appears to be closed as of May 22nd. I really wanted to throw some money at you guys, and maybe pre-order the book if I could. I can't believe I missed this one.

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Rada Ion wrote:I have been

Rada Ion wrote:
I have been out of touch with what's going on in EP and had no idea there was a kick starter for Transhuman going on until now. Is it too late to donate to the project via the Transhuman page on this site, it looks like people can still get into it, but the Kick Starter itself appears to be closed as of May 22nd. I really wanted to throw some money at you guys, and maybe pre-order the book if I could. I can't believe I missed this one.

Hey Rada, at the top of the page is a menu where you can donate via Paypal and get in on this. You might have missed the kickstarter, but the fundraising is still happening.

Transhumans will one day be the Luddites of the posthuman age.

Help me get my gaming fix, if you want.

Rada Ion Rada Ion's picture
Excellent. Thanks for the

Excellent. Thanks for the information.

shoggothic shoggothic's picture
Decivre wrote:You might have

Decivre wrote:
You might have missed the kickstarter, but the fundraising is still happening.

I just submitted $100 via Paypal for the Router backer level, and it went through okay, despite being a week past the supposed deadline. But, I do have some questions with regards to the Router backer level. Since the Router gets the "full electronic catalog on a USB drive or DVD", how is the format (USB or DVD) determined and when? Will I receive some sort of backer survey for this? Glad I could still participate and add to the funding pool! Thanks.
AdamJury AdamJury's picture
shoggothic wrote:But, I do

shoggothic wrote:
But, I do have some questions with regards to the Router backer level. Since the Router gets the "full electronic catalog on a USB drive or DVD", how is the format (USB or DVD) determined and when? Will I receive some sort of backer survey for this? Glad I could still participate and add to the funding pool! Thanks.

We'll almost certainly be using USB drives; it seems like a much better long-term option for the backers, and I have a line on some very sweet ones. :)

Decivre Decivre's picture
AdamJury wrote:shoggothic

AdamJury wrote:
We'll almost certainly be using USB drives; it seems like a much better long-term option for the backers, and I have a line on some very sweet ones. :)

Is there any chance that we'll be... I don't know... given a link to keep our sticks up to date?

We would love you forever.

Transhumans will one day be the Luddites of the posthuman age.

Help me get my gaming fix, if you want.

jiyunatori jiyunatori's picture
EP / FATE Core: draft or initial works ?

Hi there. I am very happy about the upcoming adapation of EP to FATE Core - I even preordered it already. However, I will probably start playing EP/FATE before the official conversion guide is released.

So I'm wondering: are there any drafts already available, or people I could get in touch with to discuss this ?

thanks for the marvelous work.

EDIT: as usual I found the links about Eclipse Fate in the resources section a few minutes after posting ... -_-

Mephil Mephil's picture
Any news of when the physical

Any news of when the physical stuff will ship? If you had something like the core rulebook for example included in your backer level?

The new Ultimate! edition of my digitally saveable extended character sheet!

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