Eclipse Phase 2nd edition appreciation thread

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Eclipse Phase 2nd edition appreciation thread

Still reading but I have to say that I love this new edition, I don’t know were to start, there are a thousand little changes that improve an already awesome setting, I liked particularly the point of view of locus by a Jovian expatriate and the sideboxes about the daily life of transhumans really give the game a breath of life. While I expected a high quality book like every other produced by posthuman studios this one really exceeded my already high expectations, really guys you have outdone yourselves. I started this thread to show my appreciation for the work put into this book, I hope others will write here what they like about this new edition.

Moon-Hawk Moon-Hawk's picture
Thrilled with the final result

I'm also still working through the book in detail, but I've read 75% of it and skimmed the rest. I am very excited about what I'm seeing. I really enjoyed 1st edition, and was concerned about the amount of "dumbing down" that might come with some of the streamlining that was advertised for 2nd edition, or that too much of the crunchy, fiddly bits that I loved would be sacrificed on the altar of streamlining. And frankly, I saw a lot that concerned me in the early playtest.

That said, I feel like second edition benefited tremendously from the playtest period, and I'm thrilled with the final version. In particular, the changes in morphs, gear, forking, and resleeving will really help things keep moving during play; and the revamped Psi system looks phenomenal. All in all it captures the same feel, but with a lot of rough edges smoothed away, and I'm excited to get a real game going.

dare dare's picture
I just wanted to drop by to

I just wanted to drop by to tell everyone how much I love John Ademurewa's take on market economies!

Remember, it is against Firewall policy to profit off exsurgent outbreaks you created. This can get you in very much trouble. John Ademurewa knows.

http://posthuman.karmavector.org/ - my EP Campaigns (in Finnish, mostly)

ubik2 ubik2's picture
John Ademurewa

They got hit by people not realizing that the anarcho-communist narrator was unreliable, so they switched to an extreme capitalist unreliable narrator.

Gantolandon Gantolandon's picture
It's hard to overstate how

It's hard to overstate how big an improvement the 2nd edition core book is over the first. I mostly expected improved rules and it was the main reason I bought it. But the presentation is also much, much better – the basic stuff like how the mesh works, or how to manage your character's reputation is already there. You no longer need Panopticon to explain it to you.


Xagroth Xagroth's picture
I have yet to tackle the new

I have yet to tackle the new rules, but so far I've been reading all the fluff and background, and I like it a lot more than in first edition (where I already liked it, by the way :p).

Also, I think it deserves mentioning that I have the 1st ed book in both drivethroughrpg & dead tree format (imported through Amazon... I think it was the 1st or 2nd printing), and I feel that the new book has value, mostly because I still have to find any copy-paste in the non-rules section, which is a great thing for recurring clients :)

uwtartarus uwtartarus's picture
I feel like while I haven't

I feel like while I haven't read anything particular new from the previous seven or eight books, the presentation just flows better and it makes more sense altogether. I am really enjoying it. Looking forward to returning to GMing campaigns of Eclipse Phase again!

Exhuman, and Humanitarian.

arokha arokha's picture
Much Better

I greatly prefer the layout of this book over the EP1 core book. In particular, I turned the entire original book into a wiki for myself and found that some things (mesh rules for example) would need to be collected from not just the mesh section but from several other places as well. This one seems to do a much better job of 'everything is a 2 page spread, if it doesn't fit in 2 pages then it needs to be simplified' kinda, which is nice.

Decivre Decivre's picture
I have to say that I like the

I have to say that I like the pool and resource mechanics. The former is a much better system than Speed; the latter is a much better means of handling reputation networks.

I do somewhat wish pools refreshed more, or were a constantly fluctuation resource that you gained and lost based on actions. That said, they build on what 1e's Moxie already did in an interesting way that truly expands on the style of the setting. They briefly make me feel superhuman.

Transhumans will one day be the Luddites of the posthuman age.

Help me get my gaming fix, if you want.

Dany40 Dany40's picture
Many good things are in this

Many good things are in this 2nd edition ... Gear and Morph points, reputations utilisation etc ...etc...
I have just one concern ... About the massively simplified character creation. I hope that I will not make too much similar characters in the end.

Eclipse Phase french fan and Gamemaster until 2014

Xagroth Xagroth's picture
Dany40 wrote:Many good things

Dany40 wrote:
Many good things are in this 2nd edition ... Gear and Morph points, reputations utilisation etc ...etc...
I have just one concern ... About the massively simplified character creation. I hope that I will not make too much similar characters in the end.

The packages are a suggestion, after all, and you are free to change numbers and names around. I noticed in 1st ed that some skills cropped up a lot, however, and others would be kinda "role-dependant" (like jamming for a drone operator), yet the characters used not to be clones of each other.

Dany40 Dany40's picture
You are certainly right :)

You are certainly right :)

Eclipse Phase french fan and Gamemaster until 2014

Dany40 Dany40's picture
The more I read.... the more

The more I read.... the more I like it.

Combat rules keep this direct violence with no mercy we had in 1st edition...
Asynch are more weird and dangerous (for the others and for themself) ....

Eclipse Phase french fan and Gamemaster until 2014

BrianI BrianI's picture
My hard copy just arrived the

My hard copy just arrived the other day, and I've been absolutely thrilled with it. I had read the pdf, sure, but the hard back is so sweet.