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Forum Rules

The Basics:

Don’t be a jerk.

More than the Basics:

Here on the Eclipse Phase forums the moderators and the Posthuman Studios owners are working as a team to build a community dedicated to sharing ideas about the Eclipse Phase roleplaying game. We are all interested in RPGs, science, science fiction, transhumanism, posthumanism, exhumanism, social sciences and social political structures. As such it is only natural that we have very diverse outlooks and opinions, there needs to be a unifying factor of respect despite whatever differences of opinion there might be.

General Conduct:

  • Please consider the intent of the thread's creator when replying, and focus on the main topic -- do not drag threads in rogue directions based on tiny factoids or pet causes.

  • If a thread has not been posted to for several weeks or more, please start a new one as opposed to continuing it unless you are asking specific questions or following up on comments from it; if you want to talk about the same or related subject, a new thread may be the better place.

  • Please refrain from recycling memetic content, making "+1" posts, or other short posts that do not add content or context to a thread, including "fixed it for you"-style posts. If you really feel the need to "+1" something, say "thank you" instead!

  • Aggressive behavior should not be used. Please debate facts; do not attack other posters.

  • As a roleplaying game, Eclipse Phase sometimes contains NSFW ("Not Safe For Work") content. This may relate to sexuality, violence, or other adult themes. Please be courteous in tagging threads you create as such if you think it is necessary.
Topics:

While forbidden on many forums, discussion of religion, politics and current events is acceptable as long as it relates to Eclipse Phase.

This means that discussions of “you should vote for green and not for purple” will be forbidden, but discussing how to incorporate the feeling that a green vs purple political battle is taking place on setting location XYZ is perfectly acceptable.

As is using religions, politics or current event topics to extrapolate ideas into the setting.

We will even allow “Explain it to me like I’m five” style threads to promote understand of various ideas, if posters are willing to cite their sources and expertise.

Just remember that these threads are watched carefully for “This is what I think and anyone who disagrees is XYZ.” kinds of comments. Those will not be tolerated.

The “Strike” System:

Any user can be warned by a moderator for an action that is detrimental to the forums: intentionally derailing threads, trolling or baiting, harassing another user, etc.

If a user accrues 3 warnings, they will be banned for a period of 3 days. After returning, they will be allowed 2 more warnings before being banned for a week. After that, they only have one warning allowed before being banned for a month and then permanently.

In table-style, that is,

  • 3 warnings, then 3 day ban
  • 2 warnings, then 7 week ban
  • 1 warning, then 31 day ban
  • 1 warning, then lifetime ban
Over time, previously -warned and -banned posters who contribute to the community in good faith will have those warnings stricken from the record.

Instant zero tolerance bannable offences:

  • Harassment
  • Impersonation
  • Identifying as a MRA or as a fascist
  • Posting the contents of any private communications without permission from all parties involved
  • Posting personal information of others
  • Sock-puppet accounts or duplicate accounts intended to evade bans.
  • Extenuating circumstances.
Regarding free speech:

For those of you who feel that your free speech rights are being infringed on by our forum moderation the short answer is: it isn't. Free speech is necessary for a democratic system to work because it gives the right to disagree with government policies without getting arrested. It does not give you the right to spew insulting bullshit all over the internet (or in real life for that matter) nor should it. You may argue for whichever position you want but you may not argue for it in whichever way you want.

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ORCACommander ORCACommander's picture
I like the babylon 5

I like the babylon 5 reference :)

DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
Thanks for your continued

Thanks for your continued effort to keep trying to make this website a better place. I know it can be difficult considering that you guys try to allow for discussion on topics that many other websites outright try to avoid.

TheGrue TheGrue's picture
What definition of "fascist"

What definition of "fascist" are we using for the zero-tolerance bannable offences?

It just strikes me in a kind of "one of these things is not like the others" sort of way. I understand the MRA thing, but what's our definition of "fascist" and why are they singled out specifically as an instant ban? Was there a similar incident with users who self-identified as "fascists"?

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Given this is a company with

Given this is a company with a t-shirt based on the antifa logo ( http://eclipsephase.com/releases/eclipse-phase-anarchist-t-shirts-0 ), the definition of fascist follows from that position as far as I understand it. Which is to say, at least so far as I would expect: neo-Nazi's, skinheads, and Klansmen not welcome.

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While the term "fascist" is

While the term "fascist" is understandably a hotly debated subject, for all intents and purposes you can assume that it includes Neo-fascism. I am also certain that adhering to certain parts of Fascism is troublesome. Namely those that has to do with waging war against another country being an acceptable way to promote nationalism, and that strong countries have a "right" to expand its borders over weaker ones. Given that those ideas are based on a complete lack of respect for the individual lives and freedoms of other individuals, I believe PS+ would be quite happy not having those people here (can't speak for them obviously).

Simply believing that a strong state is beneficial, or that we are best served by having one individual in charge of a nation's affairs will not provoke an instant ban (at the very least not from me).

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nezumi.hebereke nezumi.hebereke's picture
1) Is the necro-thread item

1) Is the necro-thread item up for discussion? I for one far, far prefer people bring up old threads rather than make new ones. I regularly dredge through the archives. Having eight different threads on space combat or whatnot is far more difficult to track and collate than having just one or two. I know 'necro-threads' are considered by some to be poor etiquette, but I frankly can't see any disadvantage or inconvenience to using them.

2) I'm also on the 'why insta-ban fascists' bandwagon. If someone starts spouting hate-speech, yeah, obviously. But if someone posts "Yay, yay US! Let's just invade Iran already; we shouldn't let little nations push us around!" (ignoring it being in violation of the 'no politics except as related to EP rule) that person strictly meets the ideological requirements for being a fascist. Is that statement grounds for instant and permanent ban?

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Explanations

nezumi.hebereke wrote:
1) Is the necro-thread item up for discussion? I for one far, far prefer people bring up old threads rather than make new ones. I regularly dredge through the archives. Having eight different threads on space combat or whatnot is far more difficult to track and collate than having just one or two. I know 'necro-threads' are considered by some to be poor etiquette, but I frankly can't see any disadvantage or inconvenience to using them.

2) I'm also on the 'why insta-ban fascists' bandwagon. If someone starts spouting hate-speech, yeah, obviously. But if someone posts "Yay, yay US! Let's just invade Iran already; we shouldn't let little nations push us around!" (ignoring it being in violation of the 'no politics except as related to EP rule) that person strictly meets the ideological requirements for being a fascist. Is that statement grounds for instant and permanent ban?

1) The necro thread was a guideline. There are some kinds of threads (more fact heavy) that benefit from having an unbroken train of thought (like the space combat thread) but there are other more opinion/interpretation based threads that should be started fresh. But generally a well thought out response/contribution to a thread that is a few weeks old is perfectly acceptable.

2) Defining how something falls under a specific ideology in advance is hard. Every example I can think of can be refuted with a "Yes, but..." however just like with MRA comments you know it when you see it. Same with pornography and art. I know it is a delicate divide but any bans given out fro Fascism or Fascistic comments would require not only a moderator team consensus but also a PS+ consensus.

But give it a few months and I'm certain that we will revise and update these rules.

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TheGrue TheGrue's picture
Thanks for the replies.

Thanks for the clarifications.

I'm significantly reassured to know I wouldn't be facing an instant ban if, hypothetically speaking, I were to state that I found the Jovian Republic to be sympathetic.

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nezumi.hebereke nezumi.hebereke's picture
While I appreciate the move

While I appreciate the move towards clearly defined guidelines, I'm still a little irked that they include "you will be instantly and permanently banned for engaging in an activity for which we are choosing not to clearly define".

Like I said, it seems pretty clear to me; racism, hate-speech, offensive behavior, creating accounts for the purpose of pushing politics--all of these are tied to specific behaviors (like all the rest of your rules), rather than guessing the poster's thoughts or motivations (which are invisible to everyone, including frequently the poster herself).

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The rule says that you must

nezumi.hebereke wrote:
While I appreciate the move towards clearly defined guidelines, I'm still a little irked that they include "you will be instantly and permanently banned for engaging in an activity for which we are choosing not to clearly define".

Like I said, it seems pretty clear to me; racism, hate-speech, offensive behavior, creating accounts for the purpose of pushing politics--all of these are tied to specific behaviors (like all the rest of your rules), rather than guessing the poster's thoughts or motivations (which are invisible to everyone, including frequently the poster herself).

The rule says that you must identify as a fascist, not that if you make a post that could perhaps be interpreted to mean something that you may or may not actually agree with, you'll get banned.

There's been a number of topics on sensitive issues discussed recently, people have expressed a lot of different viewpoints, and the mod involvement has been done with a light hand - reminders to stay civil, a request to alter a post, a topic locked. I'm sure they'll escalate if people don't respond to their requests (like those MRA-supporters coming to comment on the MRA-ban decision), but they seem to be more focused on getting people to act nice than on punishing them.

It seems to me that they're responsible people doing a great job and I don't think anyone has a reason to fear an unwarranted ban bolt shooting out from a blue sky.

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Smokeskin wrote:The rule says

Smokeskin wrote:
The rule says that you must identify as a fascist, not that if you make a post that could perhaps be interpreted to mean something that you may or may not actually agree with, you'll get banned.

There's been a number of topics on sensitive issues discussed recently, people have expressed a lot of different viewpoints, and the mod involvement has been done with a light hand - reminders to stay civil, a request to alter a post, a topic locked. I'm sure they'll escalate if people don't respond to their requests (like those MRA-supporters coming to comment on the MRA-ban decision), but they seem to be more focused on getting people to act nice than on punishing them.

It seems to me that they're responsible people doing a great job and I don't think anyone has a reason to fear an unwarranted ban bolt shooting out from a blue sky.

Thank you for the vote of confidence Smokeskin.

The fact that there are a few of us now also means we (the moderators) can moderate each other.

TheGrue wrote:
Thanks for the clarifications.

I'm significantly reassured to know I wouldn't be facing an instant ban if, hypothetically speaking, I were to state that I found the Jovian Republic to be sympathetic.

Absolutely not.

Now, if you find the Mercurials to be sympathetic though, I will obviously have to ban you.

(Sorry, sorry, that was a joke, I have a poor sense of humour sometimes)

nezumi.hebreke wrote:
While I appreciate the move towards clearly defined guidelines, I'm still a little irked that they include "you will be instantly and permanently banned for engaging in an activity for which we are choosing not to clearly define".

Like I said, it seems pretty clear to me; racism, hate-speech, offensive behavior, creating accounts for the purpose of pushing politics--all of these are tied to specific behaviors (like all the rest of your rules), rather than guessing the poster's thoughts or motivations (which are invisible to everyone, including frequently the poster herself).

It has always been of my belief that you should interpret posts in as good manner as possible and ask for clarifications if there are any ambiguities. While you obviously can not take it on blind faith, I hope that you will see that we're not going to guess thoughts and motivations and ban people from that.

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TheGrue TheGrue's picture
Lorsa wrote:It has always

Lorsa wrote:
It has always been of my belief that you should interpret posts in as good manner as possible and ask for clarifications if there are any ambiguities. While you obviously can not take it on blind faith, I hope that you will see that we're not going to guess thoughts and motivations and ban people from that.

Just wanted to voice my approval of this as well. My initial skepticism is rooted in forum adventures with much more...rigid moderation staff.

I've always held it was silly to view posts, for the purposes of moderation and rules violation, in a vacuum. I'm very appreciative of the fact that the moderation staff of these forums seem to place more weight on the intent, rather than the literal written word, of the forum rules and guidelines. So, thank you. :)

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